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Drago
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Registered: 2-2002
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 22, 2002 - 2:01 pm: | 
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In Santa Cruz try the Cartagena. Girls are from the 5 - 8 scale. The place is very safe. It costs $20US. Things start happening around 9pm. Fridays and Saturdays have more variety. |
Zark
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Registered: 4-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 5:45 pm: |
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More Information Please...Drago, that was a very interesting post, but much too brief. If you're still around, could you add some more details: what is the Cartagena...bar, disco? What about girls on the street? What about the price/quality of hotels, food, etc. What about other Bolivian cities outside Santa Cruz?
I've read a lot of "tourist-type" info about Bolivia, and am thinking of going there. But have never seen any reliable report for us "hobbyists". |
worldtraveler
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Registered: 5-2002
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Votes: 5 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 7:17 pm: |
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O.K. guys had some time to run through my notes and here's my low down on Santa Cruz. Zack, hope this post answers some of your questions.
Santa Cruz has many great looking women. Because of a large immigration from Europe several generations ago, and the spanish settlers, the resulting mixture is a group of great girls. Also a large number of immigrants from surrounding countries (Brasil, Peru, Argentina) add to the mix. Santa Cruz is the commercial center of Bolivia it has a healthy night life, good accomodations and great food. But overall Bolivia, is a poor country, with a lower cost of living than other cities in South America.
I know a number of people who after spending a few weeks in Santa Cruz, say that they don't want to leave, and come back any chance that they can.
The Police are forced, due to lack of funds, to buy their own: guns, ammo, uniforms, etc. so when they stop you they will try to extract a little cash from you. No big deal a 20 note about $2.75 US will calm them down and get you on your way. Everything is negotiable here so don't take a real hard line with them and carry your Passport or a photo copy of it at all times. The only thing that will get you into really bad trouble quick is drugs: stay away from them, don't ask about them, don't carry them, and don't use them. I mean illegal drugs of course.
Lots of hotels from Los Tajibos(5 star) down to the by-the-hour motels, you can find accomodations to suit whatever your budget or need. Almost all have no problems with a added overnight guest. Some will require a small additional fee. I like the La Quinta hotel here, 50-60USD will get you a two floor suite with kitchen. A nice thing about the La Quinta is that you have a gate in front of each suite (so you can park your car) that you can open and enter without passing through the reception.
Bars and Discos - Thursday, Friday and Saturday the area known as Equipetrol will be full of people. The main strip is Avenida San Martin with many clubs and bars. The action starts around 8PM with people having drinks or coffee at one of the cafes. By 11PM the action has moved to one of the open air clubs/bars where you can sit and admire the girls as they walk by and take note as to which disco they entered. By 1AM the discos are in full swing. Most of the girls are 5-8 but a fewt 9s can also be found.
Here is my break down of things:
Thursday - Start at Durangos move to Veraduras.
Friday - Start with Miro and move to the disco above Mareas.
Saturday - Drinks at Mareas and then go to Auto Mania Disco.
Please note most of these girls are not hookers. Make eye contact, be friendly, ask them to dance. The drill seems to be: dance, have fun, get her number (usually she will slip it to you without you asking),maybe give her a ride home and say good night and head to another spot. Then the next day call and ask her out for dinner or drinks (coffee at the Irish Pub (3rd Anillo or on Plaze 24 de Septembre) will do just fine) and that should do it. A cell phone is a really big plus here or voice mail, but be careful, the girls can be very persistant. One night while out on business I recieved calls from 4 different girls looking to hook up that night. This is a easy way to score with non pros and have lots of fun. Remember you are seen as a way out for these girls, American streets are made of Gold right? All visitors are rich right? Well in a country that most people earn less than a month's rent for us that maybe this is true.
Av German Busch has a strip with several bars and discos, not as nice as the clubs in San Martin but well worth a trip to check it out.
There is an abundance of nightclubs (sometimes call Whiskerias) that will have a floor show and girls available. Again there is a wide range so if you don't like what you see at one, move one. Most charge a fee (bar fine) to take a girl out of the club. Some of these women can be very money hungry and want to just go short return to the club. Prices depend on location.
Curries is the most well known and the most expensive. Girls are 5-7 with the occasional 8-9. Girls will look for 75-100 for full service and half goes to the house. Found a really nice 9-10 here once that was worth the wait.
Flavias is a little out of the way (Av Virgen de Catoco) but I the best selection of girls. Most are students and a few who are starting to turn pro 6-8s. 100B (14$)For a table dance of two songs. 200B (28$) for a short time in the back of the club. Short time in this club is 5 songs. If you want to take the girl out of the club she will ask for $100 but take a lot less and 20 goes to the club.
Cartagena is another well known spot, with a large crowd of pros, but 4-6 in quality with a few 7-8s. The exit fee (bar fine is 50B about $7.00 dollars and the girl will look for $40 to $80 for all night.
Club International, International Gentlemens Club, Platinum Club, Club Kali, Whiskeria Cuervas, Platinum are all other clubs you can try.
You will find many others are around, look for the young kids passing out flyers that advertise the clubs as you drive by on San Martin or Av. Mons Riviera (another early night spot for coffee and girl watching). Also look for a fold out publication in the hotels called Hanging Out that will have listings.
Street Action - Near the Plaza de Estudiantes along the Primera Anillo there will be a crowd of girls waitng for a date. Usually a range of 4-7s but there are some cute ones hanging around. 100B $14 for 1 hour. Other arrangements can be made. You can find two girls that are willing to go together if you want a threesome. If you are into street girls you could pick up one for the week for about $150 dollars. But be cafeful some of these girls are underage.
I have not used the massage services that are in the daily paper, El Deber, in the classified section. You will find 20 to 30 massage listings for incall or outcall.
A number of girls are in the center of town, about 9PM these girls(18 to 25) all line up on the streets, to talk,wait for buses, cabs, walk to the coffe shops, etc. If you have a car drive by and get them to notice you and then if your spanish is up to it, ask them if they would like a ride. Invite them for coffee, get an number..... and you may get a call within a day or two.
Santa Cruz is not Rio, but with little or no violent crime, no traffic, great food, cheap prices, and plenty of beautiful available girls, it's a great place to hang your hat for a while.
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Zark
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 4-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 8:56 am: |
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Worldtraveller...
Thanks for that wonderful, long post on Bolivia. Considering all the "hobbyists" who trade info on this site, and all the millions of words we write on places like Pattaya and Bangkok, it's amazing to me how little we know about other great destinations. From what you've written, Santa Cruz seems very definitely worth a look.
If possible, could you answer a few more important questions? I know that La Paz is the capital of Bolivia, so is Santa Cruz something like the 2nd-largest city? What's the approximate population? Assume most of Bolivia is mountainous, so is Santa Cruz cold in their "summer" (meaning our winter)? What are the basic prices of, say, a beer in a bar, or a Big Mac...assuming they've got McDonald's? Are there modern malls, cinemas, and things like that? Or, for that matter, what about cable or satellite TV? Can you get a bottle of wine and snuggle up with a girl in front of HBO, catch the sports news on ESPN?
Any more information like that would be a gold-mine. By the way, what about La Paz? Is there some special reason that Santa Cruz is a significantly better "hunting grounds" than the capital?
Thanks again for the info. When you look at the "Bolivia" section of this website, it's embarrassingly naked. So you have provided a very, very valuable service to your fellow hobbyists. Hope any others who have similar info will feel inspired to share it, too.
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worldtraveler
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Registered: 5-2002
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Votes: 3 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 11:29 am: |
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Zark,
Santa Cruz is the second largest city in the country with a population of 1,000,000 people. Several reasons to pick it over the Capital city, the weather is better, direct flights to U.S.A. and Europe, center of trade and transportation, very cosmopolitan city, better hotels, and I think better grouping of girls.
In the winter (May to October) the temps in the Capital can be very cold, it snows sometimes vs Santa Cruz average 21c/70f. In the summer Santa Cruz is average 32c/90f.
Because it is a center of trade many more hotels and the airport is better. I really don't want to fly into a snow storm which can happen in the capital. Also more clubs and better chances to find girls.
Food is cheap here you will find chains like McDonalds, malls, and cinemas. Food should run no more than $20US per day. The US Dollar is used here as well as the local money.
Yes, HBO, ESPN, cable, sat TV it's all here. Santa Cuz has come a long ways from 30,000 pop. in the 1950's and being the drug capital of the country in the 1980's.
I will talk to Eric about posting in depth information about hotel, food, shopping, services, etc. in the members section. Look for this added information soon.
Hope this post answers some of your questions.
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Drago
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Registered: 2-2002
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Votes: 2 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 3:18 pm: |
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In the name of research I went to La Paz, Bolivia and asked a cab driver for the best pussy. He took me to some joint on Calle Mexico. This club on Saturday night-1am contained a grand total of 3 very mature women and no clients (wonder why). One of the women said that the biggest club was Encantada. So I hopped in a (different) cab and he dropped me outside what looked like 3 ´swing´ clubs all next to each other of which Encantada was one. I went into the one next door because they had a better neon sign and I always go for that.
The name and address is: Maipo, Loayza 802 (Encantado must be 804 or 800). A cab from downtown (16 de Julio) is 5 bs (or 10 if you forget to ask how much before). Anyway, cheap, and well worth it especially considering the club is uptown next to a dodgy area.
There were roughly 15 girls there 3-6, and a couple of 8´s. When I was sat down 3 girls came over and asked me if I liked any one of them. I asked if I could see all the girls. They said yes and the next girl who came over was way above the average of any of the girls I’d seen in Bolivian swing/strip clubs so chose her. 30bs for her drink (same price as yours).
For sex: A room is 100bs and when it came to her price she said what do you want to pay. I said 400bs which she accepted. The whole night cost me 900bs and maybe the better dealers among you can get the same for half but I enjoyed myself which was the main thing. |
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