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| claw Bronze Member access Username: claw Post Number: 73 Registered: 2-2004 Rating: N/A |
Dear Mac, What's this I hear about Thailand considering legalization of prostitution? Claw | ||
| Mac Horn Platinum Member access Username: mac Post Number: 4340 Registered: 5-2001 Rating: N/A |
Decriminalization. But I don't think it will change much for us. I've never heard of any tourist getting arrested on the grounds of participating in adult prostitution with Thais. Anyways, what I'm doing next is trying to form an organization which will campaign and lobby for men's rights to choose to pay for sex - in America. Obviously, in Thailand, we already have that right. | ||
| claw Bronze Member access Username: claw Post Number: 74 Registered: 2-2004 Rating: N/A |
Dear Mac, But the decriminalization of prostitution in Thailand will neutralize most if not all feminazi efforts to muzzle sex tourism ( for Heterosexual men only, Gay sex tours to SEA are considered 'OK' by the feminazi/Lonely Planet crowd). If prostituton was legalized the enemies of of dexterhorn.com would lose a major strategic advantage. Claw | ||
| Mac Horn Platinum Member access Username: mac Post Number: 4341 Registered: 5-2001 Rating: |
USA. Not Thailand. American citizens can't lobby to decriminalize/legalize prostitution in a foreign country. This is all about making it happen in the states, in the United States of America. It can be done, if all the guys - and there are millions and millions out there - finally would team up and join the cause. The organization will be centered in the USA and fight for men's rights in the USA to pay for sex - right here in America. Don't you think you have the right to pay for sex in your hometown where you live? I do. Think about it. Right now in America it's illegal for a man to pay for sex and illegal for a woman to charge for sex. But think about what is really being said: It's my money, my dick. But we are being told in the states (a) you can pay a woman, but can't stick your dick in her pussy or (b) you can stick your dick in her pussy, but can't pay her. That is absurd and it's time to squash the absurdity. It's her job, her pussy. But we are being told in the states (a) she can charge you, but not for sticking your dick in her pussy, (b) you can stick your dick in her pussy, but she can't charge you. This is absurd and it's time to squash the absurdity. Men have the right to pay for sex in the USA and women have the right to charge. Team up, join the battle, get laid - without any longer having fear of breaking the law. In the USA. Do I hear an amen or do I hear an amen? Join us. We shall win! (More details to come. All members will be completely anonymous, as on this board. Membership is free. Stand by). | ||
| Mac Horn Platinum Member access Username: mac Post Number: 4342 Registered: 5-2001 Rating: |
Another facet of this organization will be to counter all arguments lodged by radical feminists/religious groups who are opposed to (a) prostitution in the USA and (b) sex travel. Right now, they've already won the battle. As a man living in the USA, you don't have the right to go right outside your door and pay a hot babe you can bring back to your house to get laid. You can do it, but not without fear of arrest. Having won the battle in the states, the anti-prostitution groups are now lobbying heavily to make sex travel illegal. This may seem farfetched, but they are marching forward with great success. The US government has already given the International Justice Mission $1.7 million dollars to stop sex tourism in Cambodia, Philippines and Thailand. The State Department just dropped $500,000 into World Visions hands to stop sex tourism in Southeast Asia. That's $2.2 million of your tax money to stop you from having sex abroad. And it's going to get a lot worse fast. The fact is women here in the USA don't want to drop their panties - and now they are trying to keep the women in other countries from dropping their panties for us as well. Tonight when you sit in front of your TV set or computer and PAY to jerk off to a porno flick, ask yourself this question: "Why is it the guy on the screen gets to bang a hot babe who is being paid for sex, but you can't pay to bang the same hot chick as well?" Some porno stars work as hookers in Nevada, charging thousands of dollars. Thus the proof is in the pudding, they are prostitutes and it's time our country open the door wide to their services. By doing so, the prices will drop considerably, you won't have to fly half way across the world to get laid, and instead of watching some babe suck the door knob off the guy on TV, you'll be looking down as she's doing it to you. And it will all be perfectly legal. Our organization, NOM: The Natural Order of Men, would stage a complete line of defense, disarming all arguments against prostitution in the USA and sex travel abroad. We would then counter each and every argument used to make sex travel illegal, while campaigning to reverse the laws in the states that prohibit you from the right to pay for sex, right in your hometown. Do you know why it's illegal to pay a woman for sex in the USA? Because those opposed to prostitution campaigned and lobbied against it - while men like you and I sat by and let them run all over us. Gents, it's time to fight back! Your dick is calling, your wallet is ready and the woman are out there. You have the right to pay for sex - and our job is to make sure that right is no longer being taken away by those who think it's their god given right to snoop into your bedroom and tell you what to do. | ||
| malibogdog Member Discussion access Username: malibogdog Post Number: 22 Registered: 7-2004 Rating: N/A |
Mac, I agree with you 100%! I'm all for it! The current situation in the states is ABSURD! And it's only going to get worse if these groups get their way! And their doing it with our own hard earned tax dollars! Talk about adding insult to injury! If we men, and we are men aren't we? just standby and let these rabid, fanatical groups do as they please with no opposition, then we as men don't have the right to own a pair of balls! Or to complain later if they do get their way! Fuck them and the horse they rode in on! Who are they to decide when and where we go to get laid and whether we pay for it or not! They might be able to shut us down in our own country, but this shit about them trying to control what we do with ADULT hookers in foreign countries is unacceptable! There are definately enough men out there to mount major opposition to these groups, the problem is getting the word out, getting them involved and getting over the stigma of paying for sex, even though we ALL pay for it one way or another! malibogdog | ||
| Carol Free Access Member Username: carol Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: |
Right on Mac. Right on Malibogdog. What the feminazi's and militant homo's are getting away with is not only pure facsism, but pure fraud. (defrauding the US government and taxpayers ). Step by Step, they are gaining credability while usurping our constitutional rights and freedoms. Tyrants will be tyrants fullfilling there roles, that's to be expected. But what the hell is wrong with the men here! Is it against the law to fight back? Is it against the law to shine the light of day on these self appointed moral crucsaders and expose there crimes of bribery (www.ectopia.org) and fraud? Is there something wrong with uniting us and putting them behind bars for there crimes? Hell no!! There are several of us united in a letter writing campaign to expose the falsehoods of the NGO's. As Malibogdog stated so clearly, if you don't get involved with us now you not only lose your moral right to complain about anything, but also don't have the right to keep your own balls, because your handing it over to the feminists. Carol is only my screen name for writing purposes. But if you want to really take action instead of complain, then please ask Mac about this matter. Otherwise, at the current pace we are losing our freedoms, it will be very soon indeed that the majority of farang oriented night spots in Thailand will be history. Do you think that's an exageration? Think back to the PI in the early 90's. Think back to Cambodia just four short years ago, and compare it to the bullshit you see today. The feminists and militant homo's may be fraudsters and liars, but one thing is for sure: they are driven and committed in there cause. That is tremendous power. And it's about time that we commit ourselves, because we have the truth behind us and the facts against them. They are running for cover in Cambodia right now, because of mistakes they made. Wake up and take action! Thruout history a single determined individual has ALWAYS been able to make an impact. The other side understands this and it's about time WE DO ALSO. Otherwise what's the point of just entertaining yourselves sending mail back in forth and not taking concrete action. If you are interested in learning more, we have information, please contact MAC. | ||
| Khun Free Access Member Username: dhkhun Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: N/A |
Mr. Carol - That is an excellent briefing for the "war on men". You described the big picture very clearly. Thank you for posting. Your first message was right on target. | ||
| malibogdog Silver Member access Username: malibogdog Post Number: 245 Registered: 7-2004 Rating: N/A |
Glad you could join us Carol! Just a note on the defrauding issue. Defrauding the taxpayers, definately. Defrauding the U.S. government, unlikely. That would imply that the U.S. government doesn't know what's really going on over there, yeah right. I would bet that there are people at the very highest levels of the U.S. government that know exactly what's been going on over there and what's being done with all that money. Their opperating under the "Don't ask, don't tell" principal. Their thinking is, "Here's your money, do what you gotta do, just show some results now and then, anything else we don't wanna know about". That's the way they do business, especially in some remote, forgotten place like Cambodia. Then when the shit hits the fan, like it is now, they'll deny all knowledge of any wrong doing. They have two options, 1) Hunker down, tie up "loose ends" and hope it blows over without raising to many eyebrows or 2) If it really blows up, let someone else take the fall and be the "sacrificial lamb" to shield the higher ups. Happens all the time, in fact, their probably formulating a "Worst case scenerio" plan as we speak. Their in full damage control mode right now. Malibogdog | ||
| Carol Free Access Member Username: carol Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: N/A |
Thanks Khun and Malibog for your vote of support. In keeping with Mac's comment from July 15, stated above, I would like to set up a forum and an anti-NGO websight in order to shine the light of day on the quacks. We are gaining more momentum and even more evidence ( there financial statements on public record ), that show spending for children at 1% and personel expences for travel and luxury office furniture at over 90%. In terms of financial accountability, they have been caught with there pants down. Anyone interested in joining our effort at this point, needs to contact Mac, as we are still sorting this out. Let's blow away the myth that the feminists are invincible or untouchable. Want proof?,check out www.ectopia.org/what.htm We have the truth and the facts now. But the $64,000 question is: Do enough of us have the desire or the balls? Please contact Mac Thanks | ||
| cessna Silver Member access Username: cessna Post Number: 126 Registered: 7-2004 Rating: |
Mac: Here is a idea. Send a letter certified and ask them if they are going to bring up charges on these people. Write this to the Justice Department Washington Dc. Back this up-with a letter to Your congress man. Send your imformation to all the leading news papers. Also you can contact the o-riley show he would jump on this one for sure after checking out the story.You could get on that show with your imformation for sure. Then let us all the members on the board to contact there congressmen to get these shit heads. If you put the heat on these people with the big people in Washington and we all back this up with our letters screaming about this. Things will happen for sure. And the o'rilley show will do it for sure they love this shit. They won't dare to try and hid this then. We can get jail time and a big trial on these people then. | ||
| Carol Member Discussion access Username: carol Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: N/A |
Good suggestion Cessna. The Key to this is to nail them on the isue of "Financial Accountability" where they are most vulnerable. That will expose there opperations as a SCAM, and after that the US GOvernment will have to investigate charges or cut off funding or both. It ain't going to happen unless we as a group "take action " ourselves and I beleive that using a certified letter approach is a great idea! What are your thoughts on that MAC? | ||
| Carol Member Discussion access Username: carol Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: N/A |
After consulting Mac, we have decided to highlight most of our information on www.inquisition21.com. There is a new article on there front page about " a new groupchallenging World Vision and exposing fraud". The websight sponsors are another group that have a similar greivence as we do. They seem to have alot of money behind them and they will be a great partner to work with. Great websight! | ||
| Carol Member Discussion access Username: carol Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: |
Open Letter To Sex Tourists also refer to www.inquisition21.com I and several others have come to a growing realization that the years we have enjoyed in pussey paradise and the cultural delights that so many of us have come to take for granted, are not only being diminished, but are under threat of extinction, as we have come to know it. Sound' s far fetched or exagerated? Ponder about what it was like in Thailand and the Pilliphines in the early 90's, or even Cambodia. I was told by one long time observer that Phnom Phen was so saturated with pussey at this time, that the capitol at night was one gigantic open air brothel. Just about 7 short years ago I had waitresses in restaurants pitching for short time or university girls turning tricks to pay tuition. Look at the sad state of Cambodia today ( as an example ):new recruitment is at an all time low, the best spots are shut down or driven into the shadows. Girls, instead of dragging you in by force at a brothel, now slam the door in your face, for fear that you may be followed by a cop, or worse, an NGO cunt ready to bribe a girl and try and put you away, just for wanting to enjoy your rights and privleges for being a Man. What the fuck is this all coming to? How did it get to this stage of utter bullshit? NGO feminazi's posting there signs all over the red zones of Thailand, it's none of there fucking business! I learned recently, that in the 1920's, New York City was filled with brothels. What happened? Why did men allow the feminist movement to run them over to the point where they are now jacking off to porno movies and phone sex instead of enjoying one of lifes greatest gifts: real sex with real girls! All to the point where the multi billion dollar mastrubation industry is now a leading growth industry, turning men into the new perverts when before that they had some sort of dignity. Now the feminazi, militant homo's and religious quacks are about to do the same thing to Asia and the rest of pussey paradise. At there present pace it may all be shut down sooner then you may think. They are using fraud and deciet to garner your hard earned cash in the form of US government grants to take away your rights, thru legislation and thuggery, to travel and have sex with the consenting adults you choose. That is not only bullshit, it's nothing short of pure fascism! Why have you sat back so long and let this happen? Why do you continue to pretend that it's all going to be OK, someone else will fix the problem. Have you been trained in Cowardice? Bullshit, You have to help fix the problem and get off your lazy apethitic asses and put your skills to use. I have read alot of these posts and I see alot of talented writers in there. Why do you spend your time sending back and forth stupid e-mails when you know deep down inside it could be used to take action and fight back for what is yours. Your rights and freedoms to bang beautiful girls when and where you choose. Isn't that what's really all about instead of spending most of your spare time talking about shit! The NGO's are very vulnerable now. They have been exposed for bribary and financial fraud, which means jail time. The evedence that we are seeing clearly proves this. There own public financial statements proves this. Instead of just exercising your duties as men by dropping your draws, why don't you exercise your duty as citizens and pick up a pen and help us put these thugs out of business? They are not all powerfull. They are not invincible. They are just plain wrong, but there the only ones fighting! What is your reason for not fighting back to put them out of business? Isn't that what you want to see? Oh duh, "it's your job to do it not mine.I don't have the time, I'm busy writing these other posts that have no meaning. I appreciate what your doing. But I'm really busy and I really don't want to rock the boat, I might get into trouble. You see, I have my own little niche ( niche morality ), and that's enough for me, but thanks anyway." If that's your view, then go back to your Zero life. You might as well not even have lived. If your not going to help us preserve the rights of sex tourists, then go screw yourselves and go screw your girlfriends grandmother. That's the direction it's going in. You don't have the right to own a pair of balls, if you can't offer a few hours a week writing letters under a different name. Isn't that what your doing now? We used to have all the rights and now we are becoming the most oppressed minority. Not because of the lies thrown at us, but because to many sex tourists are lazy and afraid. Until you change that perception and decide to take action, the freedoms of sex tourists will be a thing of the past. Only you can change that. Anyone interested? | ||
| Mac Horn Platinum Member access Username: mac Post Number: 4791 Registered: 5-2001 Rating: |
My firm belief is the only reason prostitution is illegal in the U.S. and other countries, what it comes down to it, is because women know the minute men have a choice when it comes to sex, they will lose control. Women control men with their pussy. Women know men will do anything to get laid, even beg on all fours. Years ago, when I lived in the states, I had this bitch of a Filipina girlfriend. She'd utter all kinds of threats, treat me like shit, but I'd always submit to her ways and let her get away with it. Why? Because I knew if we broke up, I would be forced back out into the cruel, hard, cold world of single men, where the only outlet is jerking off to a some porno clip on a lonely winter night. Now that I live in Thailand, I'll be damned if any women could treat me or control me the way my Filipina girlfriend did back in the states. Why am I so confident? One simple reason: I know I can walk out my door and within a few short hours, even minutes if I rush it, I can have a hot looking babe lying naked in my bed. 7 days a week, 365 days a year. It don't get much better than that. Prostitution is freedom. It's the freedom for men to choose. It's the freedom to say, "No, you ain't pulling that shit on me" when some American woman tries to run all over you and control you with her pussy. It's the freedom to say in response to the women that gives you the wrong phone number, turns you down on a date, or says you don't meet her standards, to turn to her and say, "Honey, it don't matter if you drop your panties or not, because what lay between your legs is in so much abundance out there, I could turn around and sell it for a dime." Freedom is something the women in America don't want you to have. They have set up the rules of the game. And as long as you play by them, you will always lose because they are rigged. In the women's favor, of course. Prostitution is not going to solve-all-your-problems in life, but it will do something no American woman wants it to do: give you the freedom to choose, when, where, and under what conditions you get laid. And if that isn't important to you, then just get down on all fours and the next time an American bitch tells you when to jump, be sure to ask her, "How high and how many times?" You may want to bark on your way up or she might not throw you the ball... | ||
| Khun Member Discussion access Username: dhkhun Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: N/A |
Bravo! That post from Mac - "My firm belief" - beautifully sums up the big picture. Now I'm beginning to understand why - as feminism spreads around the planet - the first thing feminazis try to control is mens' access to pussy. Maybe they call it "protecting the children", or maybe "ending human trafficing". Maybe it is a UNICEF program to "promote the rights of women and girls", or the appointment of feminista judges. The bottom line is control of men by controlling access to pussy. Thank you, Mac, for putting the pieces of the puzzle together. | ||
| Carol Member Discussion access Username: carol Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: |
Would anyone like to know or contact the groups who are dedicated to taking away your rights and freedoms to bang women where and when you choose? For security and privacy reasons, send them your kindest regards via an alternate e-mail address. Now that can't be that dificult, right? www.worldvision.org stopchildtourism@worldvision.org jmettima@worldvision.org Joe Mettima, Director, This bozo beleives that only white caucasions and not locals are the overwhelming problem. He is very worried about the spotlight on all of his luxury purchases ( with your tax dollars) in Cambodia. A real stand up guy. Jaqueline Pomeroy, Director of CWCC Cambodian Womens Crisis Center www.asiafound.org tafcb@cb.asiafound.org This group bribed children in Cambodia that resulted in the false imprisonment of 3 foreign men, in order to justify further government welfare payments. I suppose to pay for the $30,000 land cruisers. The Khmer girls signed affidavits attesting that they were kidnapped, had forced virginity tests and bribed by CWCC. The girls also said that they were never paid the money that was promised to them. Wow, stingy cheap charlies to boot!! Read all about it on www.ectopia.org/what.htm Equality Now info@equalitynow.org These are the lovely ladies that lobbied real hard to get Big Apple tours, a small company shut down for bring , wow-20 guys a year to Thailand. Mac, you can perhaps come up with the real number. Mean , angry and bitter bitches. The kind I like to send pictures of happy and smiling Thai girls to. www.feminist.com list@feminist.com The name speaks for itself, have fun with this one. www.afesip.org pierre.legros@afesip.org communication@afesip.org Pierre just got the boot in Cambodia, when 30 armed men said " get the fuck out or die. Pierre is now screaming bloody hell to all the foreign embassies in Bangkok.Give'em hell Pierre! Donna Hughes, CATW, Coalition Against Trafficking in Women dhughes@uri.edu www.europrofem.org/02.info/22contri/2.04.en/4en.viol/18en_vio.htm It's worth reading this one page sight to understand how driven and committed they are. A lesson we all need to be reminded about. www.ecpatusa.org, The Big Enchelada info@ecpatusa.org , David Lawrence, communications officer Discredit Ecpat in the eye's of the donor community, and all the big ones could fold. www.beyondborders.org markh@uwindsor.ca ,Mark Hecht dbutts@judicom.gc.ca, David Butts ( No Joking), gives you a fair idea of what his motivation is. nancy.embry@sympatico.ca ,Nancy Embry Ever hear that slogan: "I'm mad and i"m not going to take it anymore ". Let them know where on to them. They are not invincible. They are not untouchable and immune from prosecution. Fight for what is yours and don't be afraid of them. Two good websights for review www.inquisition21.com www.ectopia.org/what.htm "Bribe a child in this country,go to jail in yours". Tell them exactly that!! | ||
| dh-beachman Silver Member access Username: dhbeachman Post Number: 118 Registered: 10-2003 Rating: |
While bitching to these organizations might make us feel better it will not deter them. A few suggestions on what might deter them is to: a) Support NGO enemies - organizations working recognize prostitution as legitimate sex work - organizations that support sex work and that have successfully kept it safe - girls and families that have been wronged or mistreated by these organizations b) Weaken NGO credibility & influence - expose their myths & financial statements - use the recent Cambodia incident to alert governments and discourage NGO support - urge governments to ignore the NGO's because of serious credibility flaws c) Unite with sympathetic organizations (travel bureaus, hotels & sex workers) d) Communicate Appropriately. We can talk like a bunch of truck drivers here, but creditability in the outside world is not gained by using words such as "pussy" and "f*ck off" Our biggest enemy is that the NGO's positions are politically correct, while our position is not. Almost no government, politician or media is ever going to publicly endorse our politically incorrect position. Perhaps our goal is to get them to ignore or choose not to support the NGO's... THAT would be most productive. Our second biggest enemy is financial support. The NGO's can tap a wide range of religious, humanitarian and public organizations for support. Just as it would be most difficult for us to raise public support of our position it would be equally as hard to gain funding. The NGO's have teams & task forces... so must any serious organization opposing them. Committee Examples: 1) Exposing Lies Committee 2) Exposing Financial Statements Committee 3) Finding Sympathetic Support Committee 4) Government Communications Committee 5) Finding Communication Conduits (Where we can broadcast our views? Who will listen?) 6) Publications & Resources Committee (appropriate material that we can distribute as needed... press kits... brochures, fact lists, flyers and stickers) Because our position is politically incorrect, we must be careful not to create difficulties for those who support us. Remember even Thailand uses the slogan "Amazing Thailand" not "Prostitution Capitol of the World... Yeah Baby!!" | ||
| Carol Member Discussion access Username: carol Post Number: 8 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: N/A |
Thanks Beachman for your excellent post. To let you know, we are already doing most of the things you described, some we are not, so I thank you for the additional insight. From what I'm seeing, as we move forward, the more dialouge, the more that we reach out, it helps us find more important insight and more importantly, unique people who can be crucial in our efforts. Where can we broadcast our views? We are now learning that the dykes,homo's and religious quacks have an efficient machine for distributing there lies and propaganda against sex tourists ( adult entertainment tourists ), if you want to be more polite. We want to study all this and perhaps replicate it in order to get out our research and messages the same way. In a head on debate our side wins. So they will not respond and debate us directly. They are not interested in a fair debate, only appealing to the lowest common denominator. So what we are doing now is setting up an apparatus for " an exposing financial statements committee". We have a CPA within our ranks who is working on exactly that. In terms of financial support, we don't need alot. Our biggest weapon in our arsenal is our committment to expose the truth and our skills and knowledge to carry it out. This is a team effort and we need the input of members like Beachman and Malibog. Because as a determined team armed with the facts, we can take them down, and preserve our way of life. In terms of communication, using words like pussey, that is common place on this sight, but if you examine some of the letters that have gone out to NGO's , that's not the case. I am just using the language that's prevelant on this sight to get thru to the thick sculls of so many lazy and apathetic sex tourists. Wake up and get involved, don't be lazy! | ||
| Mac Horn Platinum Member access Username: mac Post Number: 4794 Registered: 5-2001 Rating: N/A |
Actually, by patronizing the bars, bar fining the girls, etc., you are in fact supporting the industry the NGO's are trying to take down. That in part was why Cambodia was so easy for the NGO's - and so impossible in Thailand. Thailand has way too many tourists who support the sex industry, so the NGO's simply cannot touch it, at least not directly. They have to ease their way around back doors and even then it's going to be a swim against a rather strong tide. Remember. all these NGO groups that are trying to shut down child prostitution are also opposed to adult prostitution. Never forget that. Their hidden agenda is to SHUT THE ENTIRE SEX INDUSTRY DOWN, NOT JUST THAT OF CHILDREN. This is why they must be stopped, they are no friends of the kids in need, they just exploit the industry of child prostitution as a means to solicit donations and government grants. In short, they are doing the same thing the pimps do, sell the kids (i.e., sell false tales of children entrapped in prostitution). The only difference is they profit a bit more...not many pimps get a $500,000 check from the U.S. government. And I would bet that the pimps give a higher percentage of their profits than NGO's do. I think we're going to see that soon as we expose their finiancial reports publically. Then the shit will hit the fan! | ||
| Carol Member Discussion access Username: carol Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2004 Rating: |
Great point Mac. I don't think you realize how early the shit is hitting the fan. In terms of financial accountability, they would be graded "F". How selfish can they be? Less then 1% spent on kids, and over 99% spent on themselves. Holy shit, is that fraud or what? Hello lazy and apathetic sex tourist. Where is your Brain?. Are you ready to lift a finger to join us? Or will you continue to let others do the heavy lifting on your behalf? Do you care about anything else except yourselves? You want it both ways, to have your cake and eat it too, while others are fighting for your rights and freedoms. Shame on you. Contact Mac for more info. Check out www.inquisition21.com , lead article "World Vision and Ecpat under scrutiny"! It describes a formidable new group, thats us, that is committed to finding out....... Who is ready to get off there butts and join us now that we nailed them? contact dexterhorn for more info! | ||
| dhbirming Member Discussion access Username: dhbirming Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2005 Rating: |
Hello everyone. I am new to these arguments, but have read these posts with great interest. I have been thinking on this for a few days now and agree that we need to form some kind of formal group to fight this probelm. Some kind of mens rights organization, make the annual dues something like $40. That will be a start to a money base that we can use to fight back, further donations to the pot would be as each member had available. There are enough of us on this board and others like it to get a good start. Writing to our senators and representatives is not a bad idea, as long as we can get enough people to do it and at relatively the same time. But we cannot just say that we are pro-prostitution and dislike the fraudulant waste of our tax dollars on feminazi run NGOs. We must come up with an equitable solution to where they will send the money instead. These goverment officials will only respond thoughtfully if we give them another option that they can 'hide behind' to bring us closer to our goal. Something like medical research into cures for AIDS, cancer, etc. or something like that.. | ||
| seeker Member Discussion access Username: seeker Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2005 Rating: N/A |
Why not form a political action committee or PAC The International Brotherhood of Sex Tourists. Everyone pays dues and recieves a newsletter. Our platform is to fight and defeat irrational Feminism everywhere. Offer the Common Men trapped and overpaying in the multi-billion dollar mastrubation industry an alternative. And also work on posting signs outside of every Catholic Church to "beware of Pedophiles in the cloth". etc. Suggestions anyone? | ||
| headshot Platinum Member access Username: ppmillprove Post Number: 1153 Registered: 2-2002 Rating: |
Better come up with a more benign name if you are looking for positive attention from politicians. How about "Men's Equality Now" (MEN) or "Preserve the Freedom of Choice" (PFC) or "Outlaw War Not Sex" (OWNS) or "Truth Instead of Charitable and Tax-free Organization Funding Fraud" (TICTOFF). The reason the NGO's have so much power is that they are masters of spin. Do you think they come right out and say what their final goals are when they are asking for money? Of course they don’t. They spin their goals to match something the contact is looking for. If you just come out and say you want to go fuck whores in Thailand without being bothered, it is doubtful you will garner much support. On the other hand, if you emphasize the fact that our freedoms are being taken away one by one and that we have to make a stand against these infringements, you might get somewhere. The problem, as I see it, is that the religious right has taken control of our government and they believe they should be able to legislate morality around the world. Look at Cambodia. It appears they are dictating the policies of foreign governments to me (through threats to withhold funding). Now obviously the average Khmer isn't seeing any benefit of this funding. It is swallowed up by the government bureaucracy. As a matter of fact the average Khmer has lost a major source of income since money brought into the country through tourism continues to circulate long after the tourist leaves. So how do you fight this trend? 1) Work in the foreign countries to get the NGO’s and religious groups thrown out as troublemakers (because that is what they are). This must be done internally in those countries, working with nationals (people employed in or around the sex industry) to persuade their governments that the NGO’s and religious groups will destroy their economy. If the people realize how big of a threat these foreigners pose to their livelihood, they will campaign with their governments to get rid of them. As anyone who has ever been to Thailand knows, if the Thais are convinced of something, there is no fighting against them in their own country. The outsider will always lose. As part of this, there has to be a campaign to discredit these outsiders who come into the country with the sole purpose to destroy the economy. 2) Start a campaign to recoup the freedoms we have lost to people who think they can dictate morality to adults. Most religions are based on the belief that man has free will and that he chooses right from wrong for himself. If he is not allowed to make these choices, can he actually earn his place in heaven? OK, everybody has a different idea of what heaven is, but you get the idea. Who are they to say that their definition of right and wrong is the only one? 3) Work to get people into office who will pass legislation to regulate rather than ban any adult activity that by its nature cannot harm non-involved persons. In the 1930’s the religious right got the government to prohibit the use of alcohol in the United States. It didn’t work. People went around the law until it was at last repealed. For some reason, they lawmakers didn’t figure out that other activities, such as drugs and prostitution are much more easily controlled (as is alcohol) through regulation instead of prohibition. You could probably even get some support from the straights on this, since this is exactly the tactic they are using to destroy the tobacco industry. Of course, we would have to guard against this type of over-regulation as well, but it’s a start. Headshot | ||
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| cessna Silver Member access Username: cessna Post Number: 151 Registered: 7-2004 Rating: |
headshot: You will garner all kinds of support from every member on this site when you say you want to go to Thailand and fuck all the whores without being bothered. HO-HUM. | ||
| IndoHound Free Access Member Username: indohound Post Number: 2 Registered: 8-2002 Rating: N/A |
I live in Australia where brothel type prostitution is legal - in most states - but street prostitution is more or less heavily repressed. We have a large quantity of tax-subsidised feminazi groups here that are involved in anti-sex campaigning overseas. Due to the underworld control that some brothels have here combined with 'unofficial' protection or cover gained for these enterprises from the top level of 'society', the adult entertainment industry is not harassed as in the USA. However, I would be most interested in knowing exactly how, I could aid myself and other hobbyists in fighting back against those that abuse public funding for their fraudulent activities. Please tell me how, and I will also participate from "Down Under'. | ||
| seeker Member Discussion access Username: seeker Post Number: 13 Registered: 1-2005 Rating: N/A |
Hello Indohound, Welcome on Board. I'm sure you read this entire thread. Also read and contact the editor at www.inquisition21.com . There is a wealth of information on this sight. We ourselves are organizing our own counter group called TICTOFF. | ||
| nem99sis Free Access Member Username: nem99sis Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2006 Rating: N/A |
I don't think you fight this battle politically. The feminazi/born again hypocrite crowd uses the violent power of the police state to supress the competion. Ultimately the threat of arrest and imprisonment is what keeps prostitution supressed. The weapons of their hired proxies are guns, billy clubs, pepper spray, electrified barbed wire fences, etc... Their methods are doomed to fail. When you suppress the competion, you ultimately make yourself weaker. In communist countries, the government run monopolies outlawed competition. Ultimately the system became so corrupt and the products so inferior that the whole system collapsed. In the United States of Sexual Repression(except Nevada), any threat to the monopoly is outlawed. I think you avoid living or spending any money in this country. Only use this country as a way to make money, spending as little money as posible while here. Just as you would not buy POS a car from the Soviet Union monopoly, don't date or marry a woman from the sexual repression monopoly. NGOs are compassion pimps. | ||
| Bruce Wagner Free Access Member Username: punlman Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2006 Rating: N/A |
Yes, I agree totally that any consenting adult should have the right to buy (or sell!) sex amongst themselves.... especially behind closed doors... or in any adult-only consentual environment (i.e. a public or private club setting, or even on an adults-only website...) As for Thailand, they act as though it is legal there already. I think that the only think legalizing it there could do, is allow them to tax the industry more. The go-go clubs have a doctor come in once a month and test every worker for HIV. If their test comes back positive, that worker is fired. So, apparently, the go-go clubs are initiating this policy voluntarily...? The go-go clubs are also very strick that every worker must be 18+ years of age. http://brucewagner.com | ||
| cessna Gold Member access Username: cessna Post Number: 667 Registered: 7-2004 Rating: N/A |
Bruce Wagner: First i will clear you up on the facts. Yes some go-go bars do have a doctor check the girls once a month do a pussy check for warts or discharge etc. They all have to go to clinic Now and THAN for the blood test for hiv. They have to the girl pay for this.useually just when hired only. As you know in thailand they can get fake doctor neg reports for HIV. The big check only here is the monthly drug test.There is no policy for a HIV test because a girl just can go to any bar and get hired on the spot if she is hot and no questions asked and she will get phoney card from a friend and work. As for being strick about being 18 go-go girls do you believe in santa or the easter bunny. Facts about the sex trade everthing here is illeagle. Hate to rain on your prade but these are the facts.As for drugs this is a no-no and the owners do there on site drug testing. They don't dare the girls getting a postive. Would get there ass kicked and turned in. This shit is bad news and hated here. | ||
| seeker Free Access Member Username: seeker Post Number: 78 Registered: 12-2005 Rating: N/A |
A couple of years have passed on this thread. Does anyone want to comment on any gains or abuses concerning the feminazi crowd? |
